Hi, A few of us attended the last meeting we had in May 6th (the first in ~2 years after the pandemic started), and we discussed about reactivating the group a bit among other stuff. We also shared our concerns regarding the fact that the group has almost no visibility, and it's difficult to find it even if knowing about its existence, be it for contacting members or the community, or joining physical meetings. This email aims at collecting ideas and specific actions to do which we agreed on in order to improve the above concerns: * The bcnfs.org page is missing a link to its mailman. This makes it incredibly difficult to find the bcnfs.org mailing lists (ours included) even if knowing about its existence (I really had some trouble myself). * Have some well-known web page which is easy to share and find through search engines, which has a small description of the group and how to participate. We could ask bcnfs.org if they could provide a subdomain or subpath + a minimal hosting (1 static html web page is enough imho). IIRC Matthias already had such a web page somewhere, but I was unable to find it. I can host it myself if needed, but I think having it in some well known place like bcnfs.org should ease this. * Have some well-known chatting room where members can hang around and interact. Try to have several technologies interconnected through bridges. ** IRC: libera.chat room #bcn-kernel-peer-lab (I'm already there most of the day) ** Telegram group (already created, waiting for captcha bot to publish) ** Matrix room? which server? * Try to schedule physical meetings around once per month. If we reach to a stage with more people we can think about increasing frequency of physical meetings (maybe at different locations). List of specific TODO actions: * Ask Matthias to provide the document he used to book rooms at Lleialtat Santsenca (maybe have the process briefly documented at the web page?). * Contact bcnfs.org to tell them to add a link to their mailman from their front web page. * Contact bcnfs.org to ask them if they can provide us with some minimal subdomain/hosting (kernelpeerlab.bcnfs.org?) * Register #bcn-kernel-peer-lab room in libera.chat to have moderator rights * Add captcha bot to telegram group * Investigate need for Matrix chatroom
On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 10:42 PM Pau Espin Pedrol <pespin@espeweb.net> wrote:
Hi,
A few of us attended the last meeting we had in May 6th (the first in ~2 years after the pandemic started), and we discussed about reactivating the group a bit among other stuff.
We also shared our concerns regarding the fact that the group has almost no visibility, and it's difficult to find it even if knowing about its existence, be it for contacting members or the community, or joining physical meetings.
This email aims at collecting ideas and specific actions to do which we agreed on in order to improve the above concerns:
* The bcnfs.org page is missing a link to its mailman. This makes it incredibly difficult to find the bcnfs.org mailing lists (ours included) even if knowing about its existence (I really had some trouble myself).
* Have some well-known web page which is easy to share and find through search engines, which has a small description of the group and how to participate. We could ask bcnfs.org if they could provide a subdomain or subpath + a minimal hosting (1 static html web page is enough imho). IIRC Matthias already had such a web page somewhere, but I was unable to find it. I can host it myself if needed, but I think having it in some well known place like bcnfs.org should ease this.
* Have some well-known chatting room where members can hang around and interact. Try to have several technologies interconnected through bridges.
** IRC: libera.chat room #bcn-kernel-peer-lab (I'm already there most of the day)
** Telegram group (already created, waiting for captcha bot to publish)
** Matrix room? which server?
* Try to schedule physical meetings around once per month. If we reach to a stage with more people we can think about increasing frequency of physical meetings (maybe at different locations).
List of specific TODO actions:
* Ask Matthias to provide the document he used to book rooms at Lleialtat Santsenca (maybe have the process briefly documented at the web page?).
* Contact bcnfs.org to tell them to add a link to their mailman from their front web page.
* Contact bcnfs.org to ask them if they can provide us with some minimal subdomain/hosting (kernelpeerlab.bcnfs.org?)
* Register #bcn-kernel-peer-lab room in libera.chat to have moderator rights
* Add captcha bot to telegram group
* Investigate need for Matrix chatroom
-- Kernel-peer-lab mailing list Kernel-peer-lab@bcnfs.org https://lists.bcnfs.org/mailman/listinfo/kernel-peer-lab
As for the bcnfs parts, you can feel free to send a PR to our website: https://github.com/bcnfs/bcnfs.github.io Providing a subdomain could work just fine as well and then you can do something similar but that you get to work on yourselves. You just need to tell us where to link it to. I've joined the #bcn-kernel-peer-lab room, feel free to ping me there. Aleix
Hi all, On 10/05/2022 22:41, Pau Espin Pedrol wrote:
Hi,
A few of us attended the last meeting we had in May 6th (the first in ~2 years after the pandemic started), and we discussed about reactivating the group a bit among other stuff.
We also shared our concerns regarding the fact that the group has almost no visibility, and it's difficult to find it even if knowing about its existence, be it for contacting members or the community, or joining physical meetings.
This email aims at collecting ideas and specific actions to do which we agreed on in order to improve the above concerns:
* The bcnfs.org page is missing a link to its mailman. This makes it incredibly difficult to find the bcnfs.org mailing lists (ours included) even if knowing about its existence (I really had some trouble myself).
* Have some well-known web page which is easy to share and find through search engines, which has a small description of the group and how to participate. We could ask bcnfs.org if they could provide a subdomain or subpath + a minimal hosting (1 static html web page is enough imho). IIRC Matthias already had such a web page somewhere, but I was unable to find it. I can host it myself if needed, but I think having it in some well known place like bcnfs.org should ease this.
I've also de domain kernel.barcelona which we could use for that. If you tell me to where you want me to redirect it, I can do that. Maybe we can even use the hosting that's included in the domain. As you like, going with bcnfs.org is also perfect. Maybe we can ask BCNFS people to publish the meetings in their meetup account, which will give us more visibility.
* Have some well-known chatting room where members can hang around and interact. Try to have several technologies interconnected through bridges.
** IRC: libera.chat room #bcn-kernel-peer-lab (I'm already there most of the day)
** Telegram group (already created, waiting for captcha bot to publish)
** Matrix room? which server?
Not sure it makes sense to have the three of them. Matrix could use the libera.chat gateway, like #bcn-kernel-peer-lab:libera.chat which was enough with my element client.
* Try to schedule physical meetings around once per month. If we reach to a stage with more people we can think about increasing frequency of physical meetings (maybe at different locations).
List of specific TODO actions:
* Ask Matthias to provide the document he used to book rooms at Lleialtat Santsenca (maybe have the process briefly documented at the web page?).
I'll send that to you in private right now. Regards, Matthias
* Contact bcnfs.org to tell them to add a link to their mailman from their front web page.
* Contact bcnfs.org to ask them if they can provide us with some minimal subdomain/hosting (kernelpeerlab.bcnfs.org?)
* Register #bcn-kernel-peer-lab room in libera.chat to have moderator rights
* Add captcha bot to telegram group
* Investigate need for Matrix chatroom
-- Kernel-peer-lab mailing list Kernel-peer-lab@bcnfs.org https://lists.bcnfs.org/mailman/listinfo/kernel-peer-lab
Hi, On 5/12/22 15:16, Matthias Brugger wrote:
I've also de domain kernel.barcelona which we could use for that. If you tell me to where you want me to redirect it, I can do that. Maybe we can even use the hosting that's included in the domain. As you like, going with bcnfs.org is also perfect.
kernel.barcelona looks awesome if you want to share it for this purpose. Even a subdomain peerlab.kernel.barcelona would be enough in case you want to reuse the domain for other stuff since you own it. I could host it in my own home server if really required, but I think it probably makes more sense to have it in the hosting space, specially since we only need a static web page with a small description and a few links to start with. IIRC you used to have a web page with a description for the group. Maybe we can use that as a first version and propose improvements? We could have it in a codeberg.org repo or alike if you want.
Maybe we can ask BCNFS people to publish the meetings in their meetup account, which will give us more visibility.
That sounds good, though I don't really use the platform myself usually (and not feeling like starting to use it more right now). IIRC there's also some webpage specialized in containing a calendar of free software events. It could also be interesting to have it there.
Not sure it makes sense to have the three of them. Matrix could use the libera.chat gateway, like #bcn-kernel-peer-lab:libera.chat which was enough with my element client.
To be honest I don't care about telegram myself if we have IRC and Matrix, but other people liked the idea of having a telegram group. I think it's fine having more systems as long as they can be bridged so that we don't force people having to install Telegram.
I'll send that to you in private right now.
Thanks I received it, I'll try to submit a request for Friday 3 of June soon.
* Contact bcnfs.org to tell them to add a link to their mailman from their front web page.
Answering to Aleix here: Thanks, it's been a big while since I last did web stuff, so I'd welcome if somebody can take care of submitting a PR there. If nobody is interested I'll try to do it myself at some point when I find some time
* Register #bcn-kernel-peer-lab room in libera.chat to have moderator rights
I plan to do this myself hopefully over next days.
On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 10:11 PM Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@protonmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
On 10/05/2022 22:41, Pau Espin Pedrol wrote:
Hi,
A few of us attended the last meeting we had in May 6th (the first in ~2 years after the pandemic started), and we discussed about reactivating the group a bit among other stuff.
We also shared our concerns regarding the fact that the group has almost no visibility, and it's difficult to find it even if knowing about its existence, be it for contacting members or the community, or joining physical meetings.
This email aims at collecting ideas and specific actions to do which we agreed on in order to improve the above concerns:
* The bcnfs.org page is missing a link to its mailman. This makes it incredibly difficult to find the bcnfs.org mailing lists (ours included) even if knowing about its existence (I really had some trouble myself).
* Have some well-known web page which is easy to share and find through search engines, which has a small description of the group and how to participate. We could ask bcnfs.org if they could provide a subdomain or subpath + a minimal hosting (1 static html web page is enough imho). IIRC Matthias already had such a web page somewhere, but I was unable to find it. I can host it myself if needed, but I think having it in some well known place like bcnfs.org should ease this.
I've also de domain kernel.barcelona which we could use for that. If you tell me to where you want me to redirect it, I can do that. Maybe we can even use the hosting that's included in the domain. As you like, going with bcnfs.org is also perfect.
Maybe we can ask BCNFS people to publish the meetings in their meetup account, which will give us more visibility.
* Have some well-known chatting room where members can hang around and interact. Try to have several technologies interconnected through bridges.
** IRC: libera.chat room #bcn-kernel-peer-lab (I'm already there most of the day)
** Telegram group (already created, waiting for captcha bot to publish)
** Matrix room? which server?
Not sure it makes sense to have the three of them. Matrix could use the libera.chat gateway, like #bcn-kernel-peer-lab:libera.chat which was enough with my element client.
* Try to schedule physical meetings around once per month. If we reach to a stage with more people we can think about increasing frequency of physical meetings (maybe at different locations).
List of specific TODO actions:
* Ask Matthias to provide the document he used to book rooms at Lleialtat Santsenca (maybe have the process briefly documented at the web page?).
I'll send that to you in private right now.
Regards, Matthias
* Contact bcnfs.org to tell them to add a link to their mailman from their front web page.
* Contact bcnfs.org to ask them if they can provide us with some minimal subdomain/hosting (kernelpeerlab.bcnfs.org?)
* Register #bcn-kernel-peer-lab room in libera.chat to have moderator rights
* Add captcha bot to telegram group
* Investigate need for Matrix chatroom
I just saw you were talking matrix, at the moment I'm already connected to the room through matrix as libera.chat is bridged transparently. It should work just fine. Aleix
Awesome news! kernel.barcelona domain is nice!! We need to create and do some tasks... Telegram channel is: https://t.me/+r-wnpzp59uQ5ODZk El sáb, 14 may 2022 a las 2:57, Aleix Pol (<aleixpol@kde.org>) escribió:
On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 10:11 PM Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@protonmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
On 10/05/2022 22:41, Pau Espin Pedrol wrote:
Hi,
A few of us attended the last meeting we had in May 6th (the first in ~2 years after the pandemic started), and we discussed about reactivating the group a bit among other stuff.
We also shared our concerns regarding the fact that the group has
almost
no visibility, and it's difficult to find it even if knowing about its existence, be it for contacting members or the community, or joining physical meetings.
This email aims at collecting ideas and specific actions to do which we agreed on in order to improve the above concerns:
* The bcnfs.org page is missing a link to its mailman. This makes it incredibly difficult to find the bcnfs.org mailing lists (ours included) even if knowing about its existence (I really had some trouble myself).
* Have some well-known web page which is easy to share and find through search engines, which has a small description of the group and how to participate. We could ask bcnfs.org if they could provide a subdomain or subpath + a minimal hosting (1 static html web page is enough imho). IIRC Matthias already had such a web page somewhere, but I was unable to find it. I can host it myself if needed, but I think having it in some well known place like bcnfs.org should ease this.
I've also de domain kernel.barcelona which we could use for that. If you tell me to where you want me to redirect it, I can do that. Maybe we can even use the hosting that's included in the domain. As you like, going with bcnfs.org is also perfect.
Maybe we can ask BCNFS people to publish the meetings in their meetup account, which will give us more visibility.
* Have some well-known chatting room where members can hang around and interact. Try to have several technologies interconnected through bridges.
** IRC: libera.chat room #bcn-kernel-peer-lab (I'm already there most of the day)
** Telegram group (already created, waiting for captcha bot to publish)
** Matrix room? which server?
Not sure it makes sense to have the three of them. Matrix could use the libera.chat gateway, like #bcn-kernel-peer-lab:libera.chat which was enough with my element client.
* Try to schedule physical meetings around once per month. If we reach to a stage with more people we can think about increasing frequency of physical meetings (maybe at different locations).
List of specific TODO actions:
* Ask Matthias to provide the document he used to book rooms at Lleialtat Santsenca (maybe have the process briefly documented at the web page?).
I'll send that to you in private right now.
Regards, Matthias
* Contact bcnfs.org to tell them to add a link to their mailman from their front web page.
* Contact bcnfs.org to ask them if they can provide us with some
minimal
subdomain/hosting (kernelpeerlab.bcnfs.org?)
* Register #bcn-kernel-peer-lab room in libera.chat to have moderator rights
* Add captcha bot to telegram group
* Investigate need for Matrix chatroom
I just saw you were talking matrix, at the moment I'm already connected to the room through matrix as libera.chat is bridged transparently.
It should work just fine.
Aleix -- Kernel-peer-lab mailing list Kernel-peer-lab@bcnfs.org https://lists.bcnfs.org/mailman/listinfo/kernel-peer-lab
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